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  January 19, 2017 TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS IN WALES Re: Prerecorded Memorial and Special Talk 2017 - Welsh

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  Watchtower has no control over what can be done by the local corporation if it is written into their bylaws and constitution that gives them that power. It is abiding by the local corporate governance documents that prevents certain actions from happening. Many of those documents has it written in that if the property is ever sold that the proceeds go to Watchtower, but it is not that Watchtower goes in and takes that money, it is that the governance document says that the money has to be sent there. Watchtower cannot go to a bank and just say we are taking this money. There is a process that takes place.
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  January 19, 2017 TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS IN WALES Re: Prerecorded Memorial and Special Talk 2017 - Welsh

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  Menlo Park was it's own corporation with it's own bylaws and constitution. Their constitution required that the directors were in good standing and were elders. That is not the case uniformally, nor for Watchtower. You have to read the constitution and bylaws for each corporation.

  And it doesn't matter at least in the US. Courts have ruled on this matter a number of times that GB does not control the corporations and one corporation does not control the actions of another. No matter how much you hate it, it is case law and it would take a dramatic shift to change it.
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  January 19, 2017 TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS IN WALES Re: Prerecorded Memorial and Special Talk 2017 - Welsh

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  And by the way you can get a copy of the WBTS of NY and PA bylaws and constitution through the Secretary of State's office in their respective states, both are public records.
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  January 19, 2017 TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS IN WALES Re: Prerecorded Memorial and Special Talk 2017 - Welsh

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  Actually yes, that is how the legal definitions for the directors work. They control the legal corporations and are supposed to serve in the best interest of the corporation. Granted there are a number of directors so you would have to convince a majority of the directors to go against the governing body, but they have the legal right to do anything they so desire. There are ways to remove a director or a voting member of the corporation but that process would have to be completed before a majority of directors vote one way or the other.
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  January 19, 2017 TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS IN WALES Re: Prerecorded Memorial and Special Talk 2017 - Welsh

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  If you don't think that they are spending their money correctly then don't contribute to them. I don't understand why it is such a big concern for so many people here what they spend their money on. If people want to contribute to a cause it is their right to contribute or not. And if you want to contribute and put a restriction on what those monies can be used for than you can make a conditional contribution. When people donate to the Red Cross some of the money they contribute might be used for things that they agree with and some may not, but you contribute to the organization. It is not a tax, so no one forced you to contribute to them. It is a voluntary thing.
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  January 19, 2017 TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS IN WALES Re: Prerecorded Memorial and Special Talk 2017 - Welsh

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  There is a legal definition of control over a corporation. The governing body does not have seats on the board of directors, nor are they voting members of the corporation. Technically the directors of the corporation can tell the GB to go and screw off if they wanted too, from a legal point of view. It is does the person have legal control over an organization or are they an employee of that corporation. The only thing that the GB are members of is the ROSFSJW.
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  January 19, 2017 TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS IN WALES Re: Prerecorded Memorial and Special Talk 2017 - Welsh

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  If you know how much they paid for the building then please provide proof of it. If you don't then you are guessing as to how much it did cost.
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  January 19, 2017 TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS IN WALES Re: Prerecorded Memorial and Special Talk 2017 - Welsh

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  Again no one on here knows if it is the expensive option or not? No one here knows how much it actually cost. It may have been a donated building and land? It could be that they got a much cheaper option than anything else they found. Again no one here knows for sure, it is just guessing and it is clouded guessing.
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  January 19, 2017 TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS IN WALES Re: Prerecorded Memorial and Special Talk 2017 - Welsh

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  Also, many RTOs will also contain a recording studio and other necessary equipment that can't be stored in a house of a worker.
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  January 19, 2017 TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS IN WALES Re: Prerecorded Memorial and Special Talk 2017 - Welsh

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  They could probably tell people to work from home. But then you would get people on here that will say. Why are they making these people work from home for free and having them buy their own equipment? They should have an office for them to work out of.

  They won't ever make people who despise them happy, no matter what they do, there will always be criticism.